Grape vs. Grain: A Historical, Technological, and Social Comparison of Wine and Beer
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- Author：Charles W. Bamforth
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Summary
Why is wine considered more sophisticated even though the production of beer is much more technologically complex？ Why is wine touted for its health benefits when beer has more nutritive value？ Why does wine conjure up images of staid dinner parties while beer denotes screaming young partiers？ Charles Bamforth explores several paradoxes involving these beverages， paying special attention to the culture surrounding each。 He argues that beer can be just as grown-up and worldly as wine and be part of a healthy， mature lifestyle。 Both beer and wine have histories spanning thousands of years。 This is the first book to compare them from the perspectives of history， technology， nature of the market for each， quality attributes， types and styles， and the effect that they have on human health and nutrition。
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Robert
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Grape vs。 Grain is a very accessible， yet relatively deep dive， into technical and scientific detail about beer and the process of making beer。 I really enjoyed a talk Charlie gave at a beer symposium at Cal years ago， but I felt like Grape vs。 Grain was so one-sided on the grain side that I think he missed a great opportunity to deeply compare， contrast， and educate。 I still enjoyed the book a lot， but I’d recommend it only to people who are more interested in beer。 I took the more superficial Grape vs。 Grain is a very accessible， yet relatively deep dive， into technical and scientific detail about beer and the process of making beer。 I really enjoyed a talk Charlie gave at a beer symposium at Cal years ago， but I felt like Grape vs。 Grain was so one-sided on the grain side that I think he missed a great opportunity to deeply compare， contrast， and educate。 I still enjoyed the book a lot， but I’d recommend it only to people who are more interested in beer。 I took the more superficial description for wine as a nice bonus。 。。。more
Lupo
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Bamforth， inglese per decenni impegnato nell'industria birraria e poi docente all'Università della California， cerca in questo libro di dare una dignità sociale alla birra， sottolinea come ci sono tutte le condizioni perché questa bevanda stia alla pari del vino。 Impegno sacrosanto！ Il libro， che contiene molte informazioni utili ed è scritto in tono leggero e spiritoso， contiene però diversi difetti: mancano degli schemi che rendano visibili a colpo d'occhio i processi di fabbricazione della bi Bamforth， inglese per decenni impegnato nell'industria birraria e poi docente all'Università della California， cerca in questo libro di dare una dignità sociale alla birra， sottolinea come ci sono tutte le condizioni perché questa bevanda stia alla pari del vino。 Impegno sacrosanto！ Il libro， che contiene molte informazioni utili ed è scritto in tono leggero e spiritoso， contiene però diversi difetti: mancano degli schemi che rendano visibili a colpo d'occhio i processi di fabbricazione della birra， molto più complessi di quelli del vino， costringendo alla lunga rilettura chi volesse recuperare queste informazioni; è scritto per il pubblico americano e quindi riserva al panorama americano uno spazio sovradimensionato; è pieno di ripetizioni: ci sono cose scritte 3-4 volte， a volte ripetute a distanza di due pagine; le critiche agli enologi a volte sono sacrosante （Chateau Profit Exorbitant）， a volte sembrano francamente tirate per i capelli; infine， la traduzione cigola in diversi punti， soprattutto dove il discorso si fa tecnico。Nonostante tutto， merito a Donzelli che lo ha portato sul mercato italiano。 Speriamo che leggendolo， i più abbandonino la cattiva abitudine di bere la birra dalla bottiglia！15。7。2009Aggiunta del 3 febbraio 2018: Purtroppo il numero di persone che beve birra dalla bottiglia aumenta giorno dopo giorno ma in peggio in questi nove anni nel mondo della birra è l'inusitato successo delle birre artigianali italiane。 Costosissime e inconsistenti， soprattutto nel retrogusto， e ne ho bevute un certo numero， purtroppo， sempre nella speranza di trovarne finalmente una buona。 E' triste constatare poi come i birrai "artigianali" italiani si siano iscritti di diritto al ricco club degli "Chateau Profit Exorbitant"。 Meritevoli di nota， in particolare， Chateau del Borgo e Chateau Baladin。 A quei prezzi prendo un bel volo low-cost per Monaco di Baviera o Praga o Bruxelles。 。。。more
Mark
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Tonari
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"Let us not forget that a major brewing company will be producing beer 24 hours a day for 365 days of the year。 There is no concept of a crush for them: all hell let loose for a few weeks after the grapes enter the winery。 It is always a mystery to me what those wine guys do for the rest of the year。"I stopped here。 Ok， you like beer and you want to promote its image as something more then a party-drink， but if you don't have the slightest idea of what happens in a winery （crushing grapes is jus "Let us not forget that a major brewing company will be producing beer 24 hours a day for 365 days of the year。 There is no concept of a crush for them: all hell let loose for a few weeks after the grapes enter the winery。 It is always a mystery to me what those wine guys do for the rest of the year。"I stopped here。 Ok， you like beer and you want to promote its image as something more then a party-drink， but if you don't have the slightest idea of what happens in a winery （crushing grapes is just the beginning of the story， not the end） you would better avoid writing a book about wine and beer。 。。。more
Mara
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A very well written essays on beer and wine and their differences。 Even if it's clearly aimed at "uplifting" the beer image， I never felt a bias against wine。 A very well written essays on beer and wine and their differences。 Even if it's clearly aimed at "uplifting" the beer image， I never felt a bias against wine。 。。。more
Stephen
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Very interesting read。
Brian
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A missed opportunity。 Bamforth's technical knowledge and love of beer is obvious， but I doubt he'll do much to convert people from wine to beer。 He starts with the premise that beer ought to be as highly regarded as wine and proceeds to spend the totality of the book cramming that point down the reader's throat。 Note that I think he's spot on; beer is superior to wine in countless ways。 At the same time， his evangelism was so forceful， I found myself thinking that perhaps the gulf isn't as wide A missed opportunity。 Bamforth's technical knowledge and love of beer is obvious， but I doubt he'll do much to convert people from wine to beer。 He starts with the premise that beer ought to be as highly regarded as wine and proceeds to spend the totality of the book cramming that point down the reader's throat。 Note that I think he's spot on; beer is superior to wine in countless ways。 At the same time， his evangelism was so forceful， I found myself thinking that perhaps the gulf isn't as wide as all that and there's more to wine than I originally thought。 （For the record， there isn't。） If you're a beer fan， there's little in here that you don't already know。 For the wine enthusiast， the smug tone will likely rub you the wrong way。 On to "Tasting Beer"， where I get to wallow in a technical analysis of the world's greatest drink。 。。。more
Jake
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It's basically pro-beer propaganda from a man who has worked in the brewing industry for decades。 His brilliance is obvious but the book is shockingly boring and bland， much like the drivel created every day by Anheuser-Busch。 It's basically pro-beer propaganda from a man who has worked in the brewing industry for decades。 His brilliance is obvious but the book is shockingly boring and bland， much like the drivel created every day by Anheuser-Busch。 。。。more
Brian
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Better on the beer side of things than the wine， as Bamforth is unabashedly pro-brew。 Still， I found it entertaining and informative on both liquids。
Tracy
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An interesting read about the making of beer and wine along with the long histories of both drinks。 The author seeks to elevate beer to a status similar to wine because of the complexity of brewing and the skill required to make beer。
Pamela Frickmann
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Beer is WAY more interesting than I ever thought about。 Charles Bamforth （of UCD， by the way） is VERY passionate about it！His writing is so-so， but his enthusiasm carries the book。 Regardless of my longer-standing love for wine， it's fun to get excited about beer too， and I have been reminded to drink a glass a day of either for my health。 Yum。 Beer is WAY more interesting than I ever thought about。 Charles Bamforth （of UCD， by the way） is VERY passionate about it！His writing is so-so， but his enthusiasm carries the book。 Regardless of my longer-standing love for wine， it's fun to get excited about beer too， and I have been reminded to drink a glass a day of either for my health。 Yum。 。。。more
Jonathan
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One of the most entertaining champions of beer I've encountered， and one that avoids the flip-side: beer snobbery。 One of the most entertaining champions of beer I've encountered， and one that avoids the flip-side: beer snobbery。 。。。more
Krista
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